Designer should not work OverTime
Quite true isit?
Pls gv shout out if u feel dat too.......
Here is da link for dis topic >>> fusionwave
Following r sum of da post dat posted in da site:
1. We need to respect from each others.Respect clients is our first princple during the creative process.Clients are not from creative background.We should spend more time and patient to educate them in design.In another way,clients will spend more time on sharing the marketing direction and experience with us during the project project discussion.Client and design company have to grow together during process of working.
luk
9 Apr 2005
2. Design Factory and Design company.Sometime is sad to say that,most of creative companies in Malaysia are Design Factories, not Design Companies.Design Factory are those company who keep spoil the client and fullfill whatever clients'instruction without profssional advice and quote in a very low price with a short deadline.These Factories keep creating rubbish in our sociaty such as useless brochure,leaftlet, stupid radio ads, unfunctional websites etc.End of day, creative works are covered by huge "creative rubbish" that created by this kind of companies.Is your firm consider a Design Factory or a Design Company?Pls click Post to reply.
luk
10 Apr 2005
3. true frm da heart, but i m not da boss, boss ask me do dat i hv 2 do, cz client gv boss many $$ 2 create sum shit, n boss keep sayin OK OK OK, no problem 2 client. so wat we can do is try 2 decorate da shit not to look too shitty....
dReAmZ
11 Apr 2005
4. ya ya, n da OT problem, need 2 work like hell, but din pay like heaven, dats da problem, even a lousy OL got OT pay, but us, lagi teruk den a OL, work so hard for wat huh? reli oni 2 satisfy our design will? but we still hv 2 eat isit? atleast got pay OT we will got more spirit 2 do for u. we OT 2 make $ 4 u, but we din get more $, unfair. n its ur problem 2 promise client 2 ready in a period dat u noe its impossible 2 finish up, u noe sure MUZ OT. n u take it as NORMAL thing, y designer OT bcome a normal thing? seems like market saying a deisnger dat without OT is not a good designer, wat a crap theory?
dReAmZ
11 Apr 2005
5. Over Time work. A good designer or a good design firm should not working on OT.But most Malaysia Design Company need their staff to work OT without paying.OT shows that the managment of a company already occur some problems, especially time management,productions management and client management.Company that keep on working on OT but still do not produce good work. Are you working on OT now ? If yes, you have the rights to point out the useless of your bos and your team.Life is short, no one suppose to spend the time on a crap job and a crap campany.Pick a right company and do a right thing.Click Post to reply on this issue.
luk
12 Apr 2005
6. but now most of da designers thought changed. Work OT bcome a TYPICAL way for dem.
dReAmZ
12 Apr 2005
7. Stick this in mind,WHY need to do OT,is it becoz ur work lousy or you cannot make the things on time?might not be the company problem...look back,is it yourself or the company,only then make the judgement...i know there is alot of designers always complaint but only come out shit,but true,there is some bosses also like that too...so keep this in mind, do the right thing,put ur full effort in.alittle OT is not a problem,just not too over.soon you will get your reward back.
#HAN#
12 Apr 2005
8.
A says: den y he LUV OT ?
B says: ahah cos he only start work at 11 or 12 something
B says: ehhehe
B says: he likes to play online games
A says: hmpppppppppp
A says: tell him loud la
B says: keep this in mind... don spread it out
A says: cz of got he dis kinda designer
A says: dats y designer need 2 work OT
B says: no no./.. in his mind, he is still our monitor
B says: ahahah
A says: if u work wif full concentration
A says: finished on time
A says: no need OT
B says: yes... some designer only can work at night
A says: dats his management problem
B says: yes
B says: i can say, is ourself problem..
A says: crap reason
A says: dun tell me esigner oni work at nite
B says: if we don ahv problem then ok, but bosses should not ahev the mistake or time management
A says: bla bla bla crap
B says: ahhaha
B says: some designer like toworkat night
B says: they are not able towork in day time
A says: if u think u r a designer who oni can work work at nite
A says: u kenot consider a designer aso
A says: a designer can work in any time
A says: not oni NITE TIME
B says: designer also a human mah.. nothing special one... cos designer need rest too...
A says: ya
A says: siao man
A says: normal working hour aso die d
B says: hai~////
A says: still need OT
B says: yalah
A says: bcz of dis kinda DESIGNER
B says: work for 8 hours a day .. whole day facing pc
B says: sien la
A says: make every 1 need 2 OT
B says: yea.. i can imaging that
B says: i hate OT
A says: cz of dos DEISNGER dat KENoT work in day time, dey NEED to work in nite time dats = OT, make every 1 think dat a designer without OT is Not a Good designer.....
A says: cz dey think dos DESIGNER veli hard working, oways OT, but do dey reli WORK in normal working hours or wat
B says: :)
A says: i admit sum of it reli hardworking n still kenot finish work, cz too many work
B says: too many is becos bosses! collect more and moer project and time arrangement tight! and don wan to hire more ppl!
B says: so OT will come in
A n B msn chatZ
12 Apr 2005
bcz of sum UNconvenient, kenot post da name (will cause war)
9. OT but no money. why should we work OT? cos boss love to see we work for OT!
nini
12 Apr 2005
10. ya, definition for boss >> OT = u r a hardworking employee. no OT = u r not hardworking enuff.
dReAmZ
12 Apr 2005
11. but dey din consider for da working time, mayb dey come at 12pm? 11am? n da proper working time is frm 9am?
dReAmZ
12 Apr 2005
12. OT in creative industry is cause by few points.1.Company client managment problem.2.Creative team time management problem.3.Designer personal decipline problem.According to most interviewers, OT probelms mainly created by the company management.
luk
12 Apr 2005
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